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« on: July 22, 2008, 03:48:50 PM »
Hi  Dean,

I read your last post in the forum you CLOSED...

I saw the screen shots and that good for smoking mirrors...

But if you've totally rewritten the product from the Ground Floor
up then I'm sure you modularized the code into distinct components
which could easily be tweaked or modified without breaking the
rest of the system -- RIGHT?!

As far as your post where you chide your customer with this...

This post has taken up about 20 mins of time I should have spent catching up on support so I can continue work on the update. Therefore I am closing this topic in an effort to complete the update more quickly. If you have any support questions please post to the General Support category.

I find that comical really.... You speak about catching up on support.  How
busy can that really be ... It seems by now that all the issues you would
face with the current product you'd KNOW the answer and if you USED
your time wisely --- create a VIDEO to demonstrate the fix or at least a knowledgebase of textual answers for users to peruse before they
ever sent you request.   You could also outsource SUPPORT if you time is so very precious as you state about the meager 20 minutes you spent
to throw some screen shots up and write 10 sentences...

As far as the ONLINE help... get a grip... if you've redone the product
the way you should have then this would be a mute point. Icing on the
cake at best...  So assuming ONLINE HELP can be skipped except maybe
bare minum 1st cut -- how long before the GUTS of the new version
will be ready .... don't really care about all the bells and whistles --- those
can be released over time assuming the product is modular.

So how much more of wait until just the GUTs are ready for release?
Functional -- but no super bells and whistles -- just solid core functionality
that works...  

Not too much to ask - eh?

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 09:18:27 AM »
Hey John - first of all its "Smoke and Mirrors" not "Smoking Mirrors".  Secontly its "MOOT point"  not "MUTE" point ....

That being said, you come across like a monumental D*CK in your post above.  Dean doesn't owe you or me anything.  If you bothered to read other threads, the guy is trying to build some financial security, and has taken on several other jobs lately.  A guy has to eat.  You'd do us all a favor by not being such a d*ck.  If you don't like the product, use a different one.  Don't subject me and everyone else here to an *ssholeish post like this.  If you're that upset, use another program that makes you happy.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 09:42:23 AM »
HLT:  *Thank You*! That was an incredibly huge sense of entitlement that needed to be corrected.  You did a better job than I could have!
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 08:28:09 AM »
I appreciate your guys' response in my defense.  Posts like these can make it hard to visit the forum, but it is a result of my own doing. I have promised a lot, and my generosity and effort to please everyone seems to have outstripped my ability. In frustration I have made some lame excuses, which do nothing to quell the growing tide of resentment.  Indeed, I am supporting ListMail, doing some hosting, trying to diversify a little and have been dealing with some life issues, but I realize ListMail is a sure thing and it would be foolish to let it die without making good on the next update.  So I come back with, at worst, a few extra bucks a day and more knowledge of PHP to put to good use.

I have no shortage of features on the list for addition, and by browsing the program it is easy to see where improvements can be made.  I am fairly good at thinking like a user.  I work with some clients on a daily basis, tweaking servers, responding to questions, etc. to make sure their mailings go smoothly, so I can see a lot of the errors a user sees, as well as ones they don't. You might find some of the existing features unexpectedly thoughtful. My programming skills have come a long way - more complex features and page designs are becoming easier for me to create and manage.

For example, since I wrote the last post regarding the bounce feature I completely redid it...  There will be unlimited rules which can be a "string" or "regexp" match.  There are 3 things you will be able to do with bounces that matches a rule: 1) Hard bounce 2) Ignore (for warning messages) 3) Ignore and notify, with optional text to include with the notification (for spam blocks). The ability to "review messages the don't match a rule" will be able to be turned on or default to another mode such as "hard bounce" (the way it is now).  I can't resist sharing because it's exciting to think that some of the major drawbacks that have plagued users and myself will soon be solved.

I've been down and out lately, but I'm back.  I will show you what I've learned, through LMP, as soon as I can.  There is still much work to be done, but the direction is clear - I don't think I need much more input for the time being.  Thank you for your continued patience.

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Re: ListMail Pro v2 -- When will it happen?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 03:15:21 PM »
Ok Dean,

It's been 2 long years since my last post. What if anything will ever occur with ListMail Pro v1.88?

I just want to know if you have any intention at all of ever posting a new version with any new
functionality at all.

Or should we just take what you gave us and tweak it with other programmers since it's not encrypted and just forget about any updates.  I heard the posts and I've sat back for 2 years now.

You've promised X, Y,  and Z -- but so far - not a thing.

Where are you?

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 03:06:57 AM »
Dean,

I believe you do owe me at least a contact?  Use my email address, you know what it is - or through my website below.  Let me know when I can reach you. 

As you see others still wait for you to update LMP, and I'm still using it, after all these years, just fine.... I could lay out a plan for you to move LMP 2.0 forward, I have direct experience with features that should be added and in what order.

Contact me!

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Re: ListMail Pro v2 -- When will it happen?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 05:53:48 PM »
He sent me an email a couple weeks ago actually ( well filled out my contact form ) about putting a link on his help page or something...  I emailed him back immediately and have yet to hear from him.  Take that for what you will...

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Re: ListMail Pro v2 -- When will it happen?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2011, 11:09:19 AM »
So is Dean back or not? I am getting error messages to my error log file. Is there anyone that can help me?

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2011, 08:00:03 PM »
Yeah, I can assist. of course, I do nothing for free. email me if you want to discuss it webmaster (at) boaze.com